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\"AskThe Ask the Expert floodgates are wide open.<\/p>\n

I’m now getting roughly 50 emails a week with Ask the Expert questions, a sign that Scouters out there care enough to seek out the right answer to their burning BSA queries. (By the way, ask your question by emailing scoutingmag@gmail.com<\/a>, subject \u201cAsk the Expert.\u201d)<\/p>\n

For the third round of rapid-fire FAQs, I’ve picked out nine popular questions and tracked down the right answers.<\/p>\n

We’ll cover parents who make light of a Scout earning lots of merit badges, a troop that won’t count the same leadership position twice, a discussion of who should pin on an Eagle medal, unofficial belts, jamboree entertainment, and more.<\/p>\n

Let’s go … <\/span><\/p>\n

(1) No such thing as too many<\/h4>\n

Question from Tracy: <\/strong>“How did you answer those parents and Scouters who make light of the fact a Scout has earned a lot of merit badges<\/strong>? They refer to it as his collection and imply he hasn’t really earned them all.”<\/p>\n

Answer from Bryan: <\/strong>Sounds like those parents need to mind their own business. It’s one thing if they have reason to believe the Scout isn’t properly completing all merit badge requirements. In that case, they should privately meet with the Scoutmaster or his merit badge counselor. Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with Scouts earning large numbers of merit badges. The program is designed to match the wide-ranging interests of teenage boys. Why fault a boy who wants to expand his horizons beyond the minimum number of MBs required for Eagle?<\/p>\n

(2) What’s Cooking?<\/h4>\n

Question from Denise: <\/strong>“My son is a 14-year-old Scout, and he earned the Cooking merit badge his first year. Assuming it takes him another three to four years to earn Eagle, will the Cooking badge count as an Eagle badge or a regular badge<\/strong>? If cooking is now an Eagle badge are they upping the number of badges he needs to earn?”<\/p>\n

Answer from Bryan:<\/strong> Cooking merit badge becomes Eagle-required on Jan. 1, 2014. As I mentioned in my Cooking MB FAQs post<\/a>, any Scout who earns Eagle after Jan. 1 needs Cooking merit badge. But Denise’s son has already earned it, so he’s good. No boy needs to re-earn Cooking MB. As to the second part of Denise’s question, the total number of merit badges required for Eagle will remain unchanged at 21. The only change is in the split between Eagle-required and elective. As of Jan. 1, 2014, a boy will need 13 Eagle-required and eight elective instead of 12 and nine.<\/p>\n

(3) Been there, done that<\/h4>\n

Question from John<\/strong>: “Our troop will not count toward advancement serving in the same leadership position twice<\/strong>. Is this a BSA policy or just our troop policy? We can see both the pros and cons to this and thought we would ask for other points of view.”<\/p>\n

Answer from Chris Hunt, BSA Advancement Team: “<\/strong>The requirement simply says to serve in one or more positions of responsibility. It does not say serve in position of responsibility that you have not already served in. A troop may organize its operation such that Scouts end up serving in different positions so they get a variety of experiences, and that would be a good thing. But including a parameter that a Scout must<\/em> serve in a different position in order to advance represents adding to the existing requirements and is not permitted.”<\/p>\n

(4) Who’s on stage?<\/h4>\n

Question from Terri: <\/strong>“I cannot find anything about entertainment at the Jamboree<\/strong>. I have a Boy Scout and a Venturer attending. <\/span>Can you give us any information on this?”<\/p>\n

Answer from Bryan: <\/strong>I’ve been told there are no plans to announce the musical acts in advance. But as someone who’s seen the lineup, I can say your Scout and Venturer won’t be disappointed by the entertainment at either stadium show.<\/p>\n

(5) Pin it on him<\/h4>\n

Question from Alan<\/strong>: “Does BSA have a specific requirement or recommendation for who is to pin the Eagle Scout Medal <\/strong>on to the new Eagle Scout?”<\/p>\n

Answer from Chris Hunt, BSA Advancement Team: “<\/strong>The National Advancement Team has established no guidelines on who should present Eagle medals, but we would offer as a ‘best practice’ that it should be someone who will leave a lasting memory for the Scout. The emphasis on the Scout is intentional. My grandfather\u2014a distinguished Scouter in his own right\u2014presented my medal, and I\u2019ll never forget the experience. To others, the Scoutmaster who changed a Scout\u2019s life or the den leader who shined a light onto the possibility of a bright future would be the right presenter. Another approach might be to consider a Scout\u2019s life ambitions. The local mayor might be the right presenter for a Scout interested in community leadership or political science, or the inspirational teacher for the Scout who is considering becoming an educator. Think about the presenters who will add value to the Scout\u2019s experience, as we continue to work with him toward the aims to develop citizenship, character, and personal fitness.”<\/p>\n

(6) In the loop<\/h4>\n

Question from Chad: <\/strong>“I stumbled across your site while I was looking for a simple ‘guide’ to currently available square knots that can be worn on the Scouting uniform. Is there a simple guide which shows what knots can be worn\/earned\/given to a youth Scout, and what can currently be worn\/earned by an adult?<\/strong>“<\/p>\n

Answer from Bryan:<\/strong> A youth may wear the silver-on-purple religious emblem knot, the Heroism Award, Honor Medal, Medal of Merit, the James E. West knot, Venturing Leadership Award, Venturing Silver Award, William T. Hornaday Award, Sea Scout Quartermaster Award, and OA Distinguished Service Award. Once he becomes an adult, he may wear the Arrow of Light knot and Eagle Scout or Eagle Scout NESA Life Membership knot. (Thanks to all who pointed out the error in this original answer!<\/em>) For more info, check out my guide to square knots<\/a>, including an explanation of how to earn adult knots and sew them on right-side-up.<\/p>\n

(7) Belt it out<\/h4>\n

Question from Patt: <\/strong>“I’ve been stationed overseas in a couple of different countries and have participated in international Scouting events. One item in particular I like to wear is a leather belt designed to look like the World Scout Movement Knot. Is it wrong to wear this unofficial belt with my official uniform<\/strong>?”<\/p>\n

Answer from Bill Evans, BSA Program Impact Department: <\/strong>“The only program where we offer the option of wearing any belt of choice is the Venturing program.  Cub Scouts are very specific on which belt to wear, while the direction for wearing the green and khaki Boy Scout uniform only offers two options: official uniform belt or a leather camp, high-adventure base, or Wood Badge belt.”<\/p>\n

Reference: <\/strong>Page 14 of the Guide to Awards and Insignia<\/em> (PDF)<\/a>.<\/p>\n

(8) PROJECT? What project?<\/h4>\n

Question from John<\/strong>: “Advancement requires serving in a position of responsibility or a leadership project. (‘While a First Class Scout, serve actively in your unit for four months in one or more of the following positions of responsibility, or carry out a Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project to help the unit<\/strong>.’) What are some examples of these types of projects?<\/strong>“<\/p>\n

Answer from Chris Hunt, BSA Advancement Team: “<\/strong>We don\u2019t normally provide examples for this sort of thing because we don\u2019t want to establish a ‘standard.’ It\u2019s better if both youth leaders and adult leaders brainstorm prospective projects that will help the individual unit. That said, it\u2019s hard to resist coming up with an example. But remember, it\u2019s just an example from one Scouter to another that maybe could generate that brainstorming. If I were a Scoutmaster I would probably have a mental list of things I would like to see improved. Maybe there are behavioral issues, for example, that might be resolved if Scouts who are not involved in troop leadership were to give input and take ownership of the solutions. A leadership project might then be to assemble a Scout focus group and give leadership to the creation of a troop code of conduct that all the Scouts could accept. Such a code would have to be drafted and edited, perhaps reviewed by all the Scouts in the troop for input, and be reviewed by the PLC for further adjustments. The Scout could then present the code to the troop committee for its review, and finally have it printed and signed by all the Scouts.<\/p>\n

(9) One task, two requirements?<\/h4>\n

Question from Dave: <\/strong>“Can a single task satisfy the requirements of two (or more) separate merit badges?<\/strong> For example, Scouts in my troop are going to visit a courthouse and view live court to satisfy a requirement for the Citizenship in the Community merit badge.  Can they use that same visit to satisfy a requirement for the Law merit badge? My instinct is no, Scouts need to complete each merit badge independently, but I thought I would Ask the Expert.”<\/p>\n

Answer from Chris Hunt, BSA Advancement Team: <\/strong>“We address this in the revised Guide to Advancement<\/em>, which should be released within the next 30 days. It will be posted on scouting.org first as a PDF and then printed and distributed to Scout Shops. The book is in final editing and the actual wording may get some minor adjustments. If folks follow us on Twitter<\/a> they will be the first to know about the release of GTA 2013.”<\/p>\n

4.2.3.6 Fulfilling More Than One Requirement With <\/span><\/strong>a Single Activity<\/strong><\/p>\n

From time to time it may be appropriate for a Scout to<\/em>
\napply what was done to meet one requirement toward<\/em>
\nthe completion of another. In deciding whether to allow<\/em>
\nthis, unit leaders or merit badge counselors should<\/em>
\nconsider the following.<\/em><\/p>\n

When, for all practical purposes, two requirements match<\/em>
\nup exactly and have the same basic intent\u2014for example,<\/em>
\ncamping nights for Second Class and First Class ranks<\/em>
\nand for the Camping merit badge\u2014it is appropriate<\/em>
\nand permissible, unless it is stated otherwise in the<\/em>
\nrequirements, to use those matching activities for both<\/em>
\nthe ranks and the merit badge.<\/em><\/p>\n

Where matching requirements are oriented toward<\/em>
\nsafety, such as those related to first aid or CPR,<\/em>
\nthe person signing off the requirements should be<\/em>
\nsatisfied the Scout remembers what he learned from<\/em>
\nthe previous experience.<\/em><\/p>\n

Some requirements may have the appearance of<\/em>
\naligning, but upon further examination actually differ.<\/em>
\nThese seemingly similar requirements usually have<\/em>
\nnuances intended to create quite different experiences.<\/em>
\nThe Communication and Citizenship in the Community<\/em>
\nmerit badges are a good example. Each requires the<\/em>
\nScout to attend a public meeting, but that is where the<\/em>
\nsimilarity ends. For Communication, the Scout is asked to<\/em>
\npractice active listening skills during the meeting and<\/em>
\npresent an objective report that includes all points of<\/em>
\nview. For Citizenship, he is asked to examine differences<\/em>
\nin opinions and then to defend one side. The Scout may<\/em>
\nattend the same public meeting, but to pass the<\/em>
\nrequirements for both merit badges he must actively listen<\/em>
\nand prepare a report, and also examine differences in<\/em>
\nopinion and defend one side.<\/em><\/p>\n

When contemplating whether to double-count service hours<\/em>
\nor a service project, and apply the same work to pass a<\/em>
\nsecond advancement requirement, each Scout should ask<\/em>
\nhimself: \u201cDo I want to get double credit for helping others<\/em>
\nthis one time, or do I want to undertake a second effort and<\/em>
\nmake a greater difference in the lives of even more<\/em>
\npeople?\u201d To reach his decision, each Scout should follow<\/em>
\nfamiliar guideposts found in some of those words and<\/em>
\nphrases we live by, such as \u201chelpful,\u201d \u201ckind,\u201d \u201cDo a Good<\/em>
\nTurn Daily,\u201d and \u201chelp other people at all times.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

As Scout leaders and advancement administrators, we<\/em>
\nmust ask ourselves an even more pointed question: \u201cIs it<\/em>
\nmy goal to produce Scouts who check a task off a list or<\/em>
\nScouts who will become the leaders in our communities?\u201d<\/em>
\nTo answer our own question, we should consult the same<\/em>
\ncriteria that guide Scouts.<\/em><\/p>\n

Thanks to all the Scouters who sent in questions and to BSA experts Bill Evans and Chris Hunt.<\/p>\n

Be ahead of the game<\/h3>\n

Scouters who follow the BSA Advancement Team on Twitter (@advbsa<\/a>) are usually the first to know about advancement changes.<\/p>\n

See if your question has already been answered<\/h3>\n

Before submitting your question, browse through previous Ask the Expert posts<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Ask your question<\/h3>\n

I can’t track down all the answers, but send your Ask the Expert questions to me<\/a> and I’ll do my best.<\/p>\n


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Photo from Flickr:  Some rights reserved<\/a> by ed_needs_a_bicycle<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

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